Reviewer: G@M3FR3@K
Provided by: Mitsumi Electronics Europe GmbH
Firmware: version 1.0C
Production date: January 2002
As one of the first companies the Japanese Manufacturer Mitsumi is launching its new 32x IDE CD-Writer throughout
Europe from the beginning of March this year. Codenamed the CR-480ATE, the drive can read discs at 40x, write
discs at 32x and re-write discs at 12x. In this review we'll take a look at how well the drive performs and
how it compares to 'standard' 24x recorders. Is 32x really a lot faster? How about the quality of the back-ups
when writing at such high speeds? Read on and find out...
The Package:
In the package we find the following things:
- The recorder
- Mitsumi Software CD, containing:
- Ahead's Nero Burning Rom;
- Nero Burning Rom v5.5
- NeroMediaPlayer
- InCD / Packet-Writing
- UDF reader
- Manuals
- Games;
- SlotMachine
- FloppyTerminator
- Meteor Attack
- Screensavers
- Ahead's Nero Burning Rom;
- One blank 32x 700MB CD-R (manufactured by Hitachi Maxell)
- One blank 10x 650MB CD-RW (manufactured by Mitsubishi)
We were glad to see that Mitsumi ships Nero Burning Rom with their drives since it's our personal favourite. The Mitsumi
Software CD has some nice additions like the games and screensavers but nothing too special. Since this drive is a test
drive the retail package will be different from ours (for instance we didn't receive cables and mounting screws and although
the Mitsumi CR-480ATE can re-write discs at 12x we received a 10x CD-RW disc).
Like all Mitsumi drives the front of the writer looks a little
boring. There's no Mitsumi logo and only a "High Speed ReWritable" logo indicating the high re-write speeds of the drive.
On the front of the drive we find a headphone jack, a volume control, a busy/write LED and of course an eject-button.
The back of the drive is the same as usual; the IDE and power connectors, the MASTER/SLAVE jumpers and
the SPDIF (analog/digital) output connectors.
Test Machine:
For the tests we'll be using the following configuration:
Hardware:
- Processor: AMD Athlon 700Mhz
- Motherboard: ASUS K7V
- RAM: 256MB (PC133)
- Harddisk: Maxtor 30GB 7200rpm (UDMA 66)
System set-up:
Software:
- OS: Windows Millenium Edition
- VIA 4in1 Drivers: v3.37
As you can see the Mitsumi CR-480ATE was set-up as MASTER on the Secondary IDE Channel and identifies itself as "MITSUMI
CR-48XATE". DMA (Direct Memory Access) and Autorun were enabled for every device.
Now let's take a look at the features of the Mitsumi CR-480ATE...
First let's have a look at the drive specifications as listed on the Mitsumi website:
Drive Specifications:
- Supported formats: CD-DA, CD-ROM (Mode 1 and 2), CD ROM XA (Mode 2, Form 1 and 2), Enhanced CD, Photo CD (read only), CD Text, Video CD
- Recording methods: Disk at once, Session at once, Track at once, Multisession, Packet Writing
- Supported sizes: CDs with 8 and 12 cm diameter
- Interface: IDE/EIDE
- Transfer rates read: CAV Max 40x Speed 2.400 to 6.000 Kb/sec (P-CAV)
- Transfer rates write: CD-R, 16-32x Speed 2.400 to 4.800 Kb/sec (Zone-CLV), CD-RW, 12x Speed 1.800 Kb/sec (CLV)
- Burst transfer rates: IDE 16 Bit PIO Mode: 16,6 MB/sec, Multiword DMA Mode: 16,6 MB/sec, Ultra DMA Mode: 33.0 MB/sec
- Data Transfer Mode: PIO: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4; DMA: 0, 1, 2 (Multiword), Ultra DMA0: 1, 2
- Access time: Random Access: 84 ms typical, Full stroke: 135 ms typical (00:02.00 - 60:00.00)
- Data buffer: 16 Megabyte
- Audio: out 770 mVrms at 1 kHz, Headphones out 470 mVmrs at 1 kHz, Volume control left and right possible via software
- Reliability: MTBF >50 000 POH min, Disc Load/Eject10 000 Cycles min, Seek 2 000 000 Stroke (12cm Disc Full Stroke)
- Dimensions: 148 x 42 x 210 mm (w x h x d)
- Weight: 1,05 kg
- Power supply: DC +5V Peak Current: 1.29 Max: Seek Mode 16-24x CLV Full Stroke, DC +12V Peak Current1.29 Max Seek Mode 16-24x CLV Full Stroke
- Ambient conditions: Temperature: +5° bis +40° Celsius, Air humidity: 10 bis 80%, non-condensing
The first thing that caught our eye was the huge buffer size of 16MB (other 24x recorders only use 2-4MB). According to
Mitsumi this will most of all benefit audio freaks:
"...it is the combination between the Buffer-Underrun-Protection-System ExacLink and the 16 Mbytes cache which is truly
outstanding. This combination makes CD writing extremely reliable, as it avoids the burning process being interrupted which
would result in the process being aborted. Audio freaks benefit enormously from the large cache. It is critical for
high-quality music productions that every track or the entire CD is "lasered" without interruptions. This is only possible
with a very generous cache, such as the cache provided by the new writer."
Write Method:
Next we will take a look at which writing methods the Mitsumi uses to write CD-R's. We used
Nero CD Speed to do a test write. Below you can see the produced graph:
The yellow line indicates the rotation speed (rpm) of the CD-R.
In the graph you can clearly see that the Mitsumi CR-480ATE uses 4 zones to write the disc:
- Zone 1: 16x, then at 2 minute mark the write speed shifts to
- Zone 2: 20x, then at 12 minute mark the write speed shifts to
- Zone 3: 24x, then finally at 38 minute mark the write speed shifts to
- Zone 4: 32x and remains at this speed until the end of the disc is reached.
Wring in zones is known as Z-CLV (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity). Z-CLV is used to reduce
the rotation speed of the CD-R inside the recorder and thus reducing noise and stress on the drive mechanism. During switching
writing speeds, the drive's buffer underrun technique (ExacLink in this case) takes over preventing buffer underruns.
Because the drive switches between writing speeds and doesn't start writing at 32x the average speed is lower than 32x.
In this case the average writing speed with a 74min/650MB CD-R is 26.26x (see the picture on the left).
An increase of about 3.5x compared to the 24x recorders we have previously reviewed: the Waitec MEGALUS (22.70x),
the Lite-On 24102B (22.75x) and the Plextor PX-W2410A (22.76x).
Please note that when doing the same tests with a 80min/700MB CD-R these speeds will be more apart.
Features:
Let's have a look how Nero Burning Rom version 5.5.7.2 identifies the drive and its supported features:
Besides that Nero also reports that the drive can handle the "Mount Rainier" format:
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Above is still something for the future but if the Mount Rainier format will become a success it's great that the
Mitsumi CR-480ATE already supports it.
Now let's have a look at how CloneCD identifies the drive and its capabilities:
As you can see from the CloneCD and the Nero Burning Rom reports, the Mitsumi drive supports DAO-RAW and the reading and
writing of the full 96 bytes of SubChannel Data (needed for CD Text and some copy protections).
Now for the basic write tests...
The Media:
Since writers are getting faster and faster the media (CD-R) manufacturers also have to keep up. Certified 32x
media is still rather hard to come by. The presumed 32x CD-R disc which we received with the drive reached a
disappointing write time as you can see in the screenshot below. We soon learned that although Nero reported to write
the disc at 32x it was actually written at 24x:
exact same time the Plextor PX-W2410A reaches with a 700MB disc (of course writing at 24x). The Mitsumi CR-480ATE
lowered the writing speed internally. We tested several CD-R brands and it seems the Mitsumi is rather picky when it
comes to used media. Luckily we received some new certified 32x CD-R's. Here's the same screenshot again but now with
the new discs:
Compared to our previous reviews of the Plextor PX-W2410A, the Lite-On 24102B and the Waitec MEGALUS this is about
17 - 23 seconds faster.
Comparing:
Next we did some more tests comparing the Mitsumi CR-480ATE to our previous reviews:
Please note that the Plextor and Lite-On tests were done on different machines so the achieved writing times can be a
little off.
For our tests we used two .avi (DivX) files. One file of 700MB and one of 650MB. We wrote them at 16x, 20x. 24x and 32x.
In the table below you can see the achieved results:
speeds the Plextor PX-W2410A does and beats both the Lite-On 24102B and the Waitec MEGALUS. We couldn't perform the 20x
tests since both Nero and CloneCD refused to write at this speed.
Now that we've taken a look at how the Mitsumi CR-480ATE writes data it's time to find out how well the drive can read
data...
Now we'll start testing the reading of normal/unprotected data discs. Let's see how fast the Mitsumi drive can read data
and if it can really reach the claimed 40x. For the tests we once again used Nero CD Speed (version 0.85 beta) and repeated the tests several times to make sure the results were
accurate.
The data read tests are divided into four sections:
Transfer Rate Test - Original/Pressed Discs:
For the transfer rate tests we used a pressed CD-ROM containing PlexTools v1.05 which was exactly 74 minutes (333.000
sectors) long. Below the produced graph with Nero CD Speed:
In the left screenshot you see that the Mitsumi CR-480ATE performs well getting an average reading speed of 30.42x. The
drive can reach the claimed 40x without problems.
The seek times with original/pressed media were very good as you can see in the screenshot on the right.
The Mitsumi CR-480ATE wasn't the fastest data reader we've seen as you can see in the table below when we compare the
drive to our previous reviews of the Plextor PX-W2410A, the Lite-On 24102B and the Waitec MEGALUS. Please note that the
Plextor and Lite-On tests were done on different machines so the achieved writing times can be a little off:
Original Discs |
Average Reading Speed |
Start Reading Speed |
End Reading Speed |
Seek Times Random |
Seek Times 1/3 |
Seek Times Full |
Plextor PX-W2410A |
32,01 | 19,01 | 42,17 | 160ms | 154ms | 472ms |
Lite-On 24102B |
30,94 | 18,37 | 40,78 | 86ms | 99ms | 171ms |
Waitec MEGALUS |
30,79 | 17,98 | 40,71 | 152ms | 157ms | 275ms |
Mitsumi CR-480ATE |
30,42 | 18,00 | 40,11 | 93ms | 97ms | 132ms |
The grey area's indicate the highest speed / best time |
Transfer Rate Test - CD-Recordable Media:
For the transfer rate tests with CD-Recordable Media we again used the "PlexTools v1.05" disc only this time we read from
a back-up disc. The disc used was a 'That's Write' CD-R certified up to 16x writing and manufactured by Gigastorage. The back-up disc was of course also
74 minutes (333.000 sectors) long. Below the produced graph with Nero CD Speed:
The Mitsumi CR-480ATE is slightly slower with CD-R media than with original/pressed discs. It doesn't reach 40x and the
top reading speed is 39.44x.
The seek times are however very good, faster than with original/pressed discs.
In the table below we compare the achieved results to the Waitec MEGALUS. We cannot compare the results with the Plextor
and Lite-On because these reviews were done by someone else (StevieB) and otherwise we cannot guarantee the achieved
results:
CD-R Discs |
Average Reading Speed |
Start Reading Speed |
End Reading Speed |
Seek Times Random |
Seek Times 1/3 |
Seek Times Full |
Waitec MEGALUS |
30,49 | 18,27 | 40,07 | 121ms | 133ms | 252ms |
Mitsumi CR-480ATE |
29,99 | 17,98 | 39,44 | 91ms | 96ms | 127ms |
The grey area's indicate the highest speed / best time |
Transfer Rate Test - CD-ReWriteable Media:
To test the transfer rate with CD-RW discs we again used the "PlexTools v1.05" disc only this time we read from a
CD-ReWritable disc. The disc used was a 'Verbatim' CD-RW certified up to 10x writing and manufactured by Mitsubishi. The
CD-RW disc was of course also 74 minutes (333.000 sectors) long. Below the produced graph with Nero CD Speed:
The Mitsumi CR-480ATE really produces an excellent result here and can read CD-RW discs at full speed (40.84x). It's
even faster with CD-RW discs than with original/pressed discs and CD-R discs!
The seek times are again very good, slightly slower than with original/pressed discs and CD-R discs.
In the table below we compare the achieved results to the Waitec MEGALUS. Again we cannot compare the results with the
Plextor and Lite-On because these reviews were done by someone else (StevieB) and otherwise we cannot guarantee the
achieved results:
CD-RW Discs |
Average Reading Speed |
Start Reading Speed |
End Reading Speed |
Seek Times Random |
Seek Times 1/3 |
Seek Times Full |
Waitec MEGALUS |
25,19 | 14,84 | 33,26 | 123ms | 138ms | 261ms |
Mitsumi CR-480ATE |
30,98 | 18,27 | 40,84 | 96ms | 102ms | 137ms |
The grey area's indicate the highest speed / best time |
Transfer Rate Test - Conclusion:
Overall we can say that the Mitsumi CR-480ATE is not the fastest 40x reader out there. Although the differences are
minimal the Plextor PX-W2410 seems unbeatable (for now?). However when it comes to seek times and the reading of CD-RW
discs the Mitsumi really achieves an excellent result.
Now that we've tested how well the Mitsumi can read normal/unprotected data it's time to see how it performs
with protected data...
Now we'll start testing the reading of copy-protected data discs. Copy-protections are used on almost every game nowadays
so it's important a writer can handle the various protections out there. For the tests we used CloneCD version 3.3.4.1 from
Elaborate Bytes. We scanned every disc with the latest German ClonyXXL
version 2.0.0.2 Beta e to determine the used copy-protection. ClonyXXL can be obtained from
home.arcor.de/bejot.
The 'skeletons' underneath each ClonyXXL scan-result screen indicate the toughness of the used protection:
usual conclusions:
For this test we'll use a game called 'Desperados' protected with LaserLock 2. We scanned the disc with the German
ClonyXXL and it indeed finds the LaserLock protection:
- Read Speed: Max
- Fast Error Skip:
- Read Retries: 0 (default)
- Error Correction: Software (default)
- Intelligent Bad Sector Scanner:
- Sector Skip: 100 (default)
LaserLock 2 is hard to read for a lot of recorders but the Mitsumi CR-480ATE performed very well. Whereas the Waitec
MEGALUS needed well over 1 hour and 30 minutes to read the disc, the Mitsumi finished the job in under 21 minutes:
For this test we'll use a game called 'Beavis and Butthead: BungHole in One' protected with the normal SafeDisc. Note
that 'Alt' means 'Old' since SafeDisc is a rather old protection.
CloneCD was set-up with the following settings:
- Read Speed: Max
- Fast Error Skip:
- Read Retries: 0 (default)
- Error Correction: Software (default)
Again the Mitsumi produces an excellent result here. It skips the SafeDisc errors very fast and can read the entire
disc in just over 3 minutes. Really a lot faster than the Waitec MEGALUS which needed well over 1 hour and 30 minutes:
compare the achieved results. However we can say that the Mitsumi is the fastest SafeDisc reader here. It beats all drives
we have reviewed with ease.
For this test we'll use a game called 'The Sims: House Party' protected with SafeDisc 2:
- Read Speed: Max
- Fast Error Skip:
- Read Retries: 0 (default)
- Error Correction: Software (default)
Again the Mitsumi is extremely fast. This time the CR-480ATE finishes the job in 2 minutes and 30 seconds! Again a lot
faster than the Waitec MEGALUS which needed well over 46 minutes. Please note that this time we read from a back-up disc:
discs. However, as most people will know, we also need to check if the drive can write SafeDisc 2. Unlike the other
protections SafeDisc 2 back-ups depend on whether or not the drive support 'Correct EFM Encoding' which is needed to write
'regular bit patterns'. For more info on SafeDisc 2 read this
article.
We re-read the disc again only this time at 4x just to make sure that the created image was good. We used the same
'Fast Error Skip' settings as before:
- Read Speed: 4x
- Fast Error Skip:
- Read Retries: 0 (default)
- Error Correction: Software (default)
We wrote the disc with the default settings enabled ('buffer underrun protection and 'always close last session' on).
Unfortunately the Mitsumi CR-480ATE fails in making a working SafeDisc 2 back-up. We tested the back-up in these
drives:
- Toshiba SD-M1502: failed
- Mitsumi CR-480ATE: failed
Next we tried to write the disc with CloneCD's 'Amplify Weak Sectors' option enabled. This is a new CloneCD feature which
is supposed to help writers like the Mitsumi produce better (read: working) back-ups of SafeDisc 2 protected discs. For more
info on this new feature read this article.
these drives:
- Toshiba SD-M1502: success
- Mitsumi CR-480ATE: success
The final normal protected data tests we'll do is with a game called 'V-Rally 2 Expert Edition' protected with SecuROM 2:
- Read Speed: Max
- Read SubChannel Data from Data Tracks
- Read SubChannel Data from Audio Tracks
SecuROM 2. The drive is again really fast, faster than the drives we've previously tested.
Protected Data - PlayStation/LibCrypt:
The final protected data test we'll do is with a LibCrypt protected PlayStation disc called 'Final Fantasy VIII'. We used
the first (of four) disc(s) of this game:
- Read Speed: Max
- Read SubChannel Data from Data Tracks
- Read SubChannel Data from Audio Tracks
comparison, the Waitec MEGALUS needed about 12 minutes to read the same disc.
Well as you might have guessed we love the Mitsumi CR-480ATE. With every protection thrown at it, the drive was extremely
fast and never complained... It's too bad the drive cannot handle 'Correct EFM Encoding' which is needed to copy SafeDisc 2
but luckily the drive did work with CloneCD's 'Amplify Weak Sectors' option. On top of the great reading speeds the drive
can read and write the full SubChannel Data without problems. Two thumbs up for the Mitsumi!
Now that we've covered the reading (and writing) of normal/unprotected data and protected data discs it's time to
see how the Mitsumi CR-480ATE performs with audio...
The next step in our Mitsumi CR-480ATE review is to test its audio capabilities like DAE (Digital Audio
Extraction) speeds and some advanced tests. For our test we used Exact Audio Copy (EAC) version 0.9 beta 2
from www.exactaudiocopy.de and Nero CD Speed version 0.85 beta
from www.cdspeed2000.com.
Features:
First we checked the features the Mitsumi supports with EAC:
The 'Caching' feature that's unsupported is a 'good' thing while the unsupported 'C2 Error Info' feature is a 'bad' thing.
Below some more information on these terms:
- 'Caching':
If your drive caches the audio that was just read, it would be a problem to read this data again in order to compare both
extractions to find out if they match.
- 'Accurate Stream':
This means the drive won't jitter, thus no jitter correction has to be done anymore.
- 'C2 Error Info':
Some newer drives are able to return C2 error information beside the actual audio data. In that case EAC doesn't need
to read all data twice anymore, which will result in a big speedup.
Digital Audio Extraction:
For the Digital Audio Extraction (DAE) tests we started Exact Audio Copy (EAC) and simply extracted the files in
uncompressed WAV format to our harddisk. The disc had 16 tracks and a total playing time of 77 minutes and 3 seconds. We
used both the 'Burst' mode and the 'Secure' mode:
- 'Burst Mode':
Burst mode is the fastest mode available. The audio sectors are just read without any error-detection and
error-correction.
- 'Secure Mode':
The extracted audio is checked for correctness and if errors occur, EAC will try to recover them.
Below the screenshots of the speeds the Mitsumi reached in both modes:
Mitsumi CR-480ATE DAE speed - Burst Mode
Mitsumi CR-480ATE DAE speed - Secure Mode
24102B (all drives are 40x readers) we see that the Mitsumi CR-480ATE truly is a great audio ripper. Please do note that
these test were done on different machines so the achieved times can be a little off. Nevertheless the Mitsumi reaches
great results, especially in Secure Mode:
To conclude our DAE test we did the 'Advanced DAE Quality Test' with
Nero CD Speed. This test is a very hard and intense test for any reader. Here are the results:
DAE speed of 28.61x and can be used for on-the-fly copying up to 16x! The CR-480ATE supports the reading of
SubChannel Data and CD-Text. In the graph below we compare the achieved DAE results to the Waitec, Plextor and Lite-On
drives again:
well beating both the Lite-On 24102B and the Waitec MEGALUS. All mentioned drives produce good (100%) quality when
extracting the audio tracks. The Mitsumi drive however, outperforms all drives (including the Plextor) when using the
"Secure Mode" in Exact Audio Copy (EAC).
The next step in our Mitsumi CR-480ATE review is the writing of CD-RW media...
During the review we've already seen that the Mitsumi CR-480ATE is truly a great CD-RW reader (see page 4
'Data Read Tests''). However we still need to take a look
at how well the drive can write CD-RW media. To format our CD-RW discs we used Ahead's InCD (www.ahead.de) version 3.21.0.
CD-RW Tests - Formatting:
We formatted an Infiniti 700MB (!) CD-RW disc with Ahead's InCD and got a free useable disc space of 572MB. An increase
of about 36MB compared to a normal 650MB CD-RW disc.
Infiniti 700MB CD-RW Disc 4x-10x Certified
CD-RW Tests - Packet Writing:
Then we measured the time it took the Mitsumi CR-480ATE to write a 411MB (431.036.416 bytes) file to the CD-RW disc with
InCD. The file was copied in roughly 4 minutes and 34 seconds. This was about 1 minute faster than the Waitec MEGALUS which
only has a CD-RW speed of 10x while the Mitsumi uses 12x. The average writing speed of the Mitsumi CR-480ATE was
10.24x
A lot faster than the average writing speeds of the Waitec MEGALUS (7.16x), the Lite-On 24102B (7.23x) and the Plextor
PX-W2410A (7.20x). Please note that the Plextor and Lite-On speeds were reached on different machines so the achieved times
can be a little off.
CD-RW Media - Normal Writing:
Next we used CloneCD to do a Quick Erase to clean the CD-RW disc and used Nero Burning Rom version 5.5.7.2 to write the
same file as a normal data compilation. The disc was recognized as CD-R disc and the write speed was automatically set to
12x. Below a screenshot of the process completed successfully:
Writing Tests above.
CD-RW Media - Conclusion:
Like expected the Mitsumi CR-480ATE outperforms all our previous tested drives because of its high re-write speed of 12x
compared to the 10x the other drives use. We were surprised to see we could use our 10x certified Infiniti 700MB CD-RW discs
without problems at 12x. Again thumbs up for the Mitsumi!
To conclude our review we will take a look at how far the Mitsumi CR-480ATE can overburn and if it can handle 8cm
CD-R's as claimed...
To conclude our test we will take a look at how far the Mitsumi CR-480ATE can overburn data. We used Infiniti 99min/900mb
CD-R's for our tests that were certified up to 32x writing:
We once again used Nero CD Speed (version 0.85 beta) to do
an overburn test. We set the 'Test capacity' to 99 minutes and started the test:
writing up to 99 minutes. To put the simulation to the test we created a new data compilation in Nero Burning Rom
version 5.5.7.2 containing 863MB of data:
We wrote the disc at full speed using 'Disc as Once' as recording method. In the screenshot below you can see the process
was completed successfully:
final time and did a 'Transfer Rate Test'. Below a screenshot. Click on the image to enlarge:
reading speed was 32.54x. As you can also see in the screenshot Nero CD Speed cannot really handle 99 minute
CD-R's...
8cm CD-R Tests:
To conclude our Mitsumi CR-480ATE review we tried to write 8cm CD-R's manufactured by Plasmon:
That concludes our Mitsumi CR-480ATE review... Let's have a look at the final conclusions!
- Supports 32x Z-CLV writing
- Supports 12x CLV re-writing
- Supports 'Mount Rainier' format
- Huge 16MB buffer
- ExacLink Anti-Coaster Technology
- Good read performance with data discs
- Good write performance
- Good DAE quality
- Excellent seek-times
- Excellent DAE speeds
- Excellent read speed with CD-RW discs (up to 40x!)
- Excellent read speeds with copy-protected discs (using CloneCD)
- Supports UDMA 33
- Supports DAO-RAW writing
- Supports overburning (up to 99 minutes!)
- Supports writing of CD-Text
- Supports reading and writing of full SubChannel Data
- Supports CloneCD's 'Amplify Weak Sectors' option
Negative Points:
- 'Correct EFM Encoding' not supported
- Rather picky with used media (stick to certified 32x CD-R's)
- Couldn't write at 20x
Well as you might have guessed we simply love the Mitsumi CR-480ATE. It supports all major features and then some. You
name it and the Mitsumi can do it; overburning, RAW writing, CD-Text, SubChannel Data, DAE, CD-RW, etc, etc, etc... It's too
bad the drive didn't support 'Correct EFM Encoding' which is needed to back-up SafeDisc 2 but luckily it did work with
CloneCD's 'Amplify Weak Sectors' option.
Overall we give the Mitsumi a 9 out of 10 score. It didn't get a 10 out of 10 because it's rather picky with used
media but that's about all we can think of. Like said before during the review:
Two thumbs up for the Mitsumi!
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