DVD-Ranger claims Slysoft has stolen Cinavia removal technology (updated)

DVD-Ranger, the developers behind Cinavia removal software CinEx HD, have posted a blog insinuating Slysoft is using their Cinavia removal technology in the latest version of CloneBD and AnyDVD. Although the actual company names Elby (developers of CloneBD) and Slysoft (developers of AnyDVD) aren’t in the blog, it’s clear the blog post targets them.


Last week Slysoft released a new version of AnyDVD that allows CloneBD to make copies of movies containing the Cinavia signal. Previously AnyDVD only tricked the Cinavia detection algorithms of software Blu-ray players, but the new version actually removes the Cinavia signal from the soundtrack, as confirmed by us. However it comes with the drawback that the audio is touched by CloneBD resulting in lower sound quality than the original.

According to DVD-Ranger, the Cinavia removal technology has been stolen from them. The developers claim that the output of the combination of AnyDVD and CloneBD has many similarities to a product from DVD-Ranger called SoundTouch and to code that DVD-Ranger posted on open source hosting website Sourceforge. DVD-Ranger states about this, “the BD cloning software solution is the same as the first CinEx solution and our current SoundTouch solution. It works exactly as the provided SoundTouch code, that was now sold to the decrypting – and the BD cloning software company without our permission.”

The party that, according to DVD-Ranger, sold the technology appears to be “Cienoway”. This user popped up several times on our site, claiming he once worked for Verance and that it was easy with some lines of code to remove Cinavia from an audio track. Although the blog post also doesn’t mention Cienoway, DVD-Ranger writes that they’ve send their SoundTouch technology to, ” a developer also known in many online boards where he spread the information he is a former Verance (Cinavia makers) employee himself. He also spread some dubious stories about him and his knowledge.”

DVD-Ranger also claims that the solution of AnyDVD and CloneBD can easily be fixed by Cinavia developer Verance, to proof all claims, the blog post contains many information about the way DVD-Ranger claims the AnyDVD / CloneBD combination works and how Verance could fix it.  DVD-Ranger has also released a tool that should re-enable Cinavia on the out from the software combination, which according to DVD-Ranger should proof it’s based on their technology.

According to DVD-Ranger, customers of the software are scammed,  “your part will be to see that this software is a real scam. Simply try to reveal the Cinavia signal which is still present in your copy. Write the company a petition and tell them to purchase a license from the owner and not from thieves. Or even better, give their users a free copy of CinEx HD.”

Unfortunately the blog post doesn’t contain any real proof that Slysoft and Elby are actually using code written by DVD-Ranger. It’s possible that when two companies work on the same issue they find a similar solution.

When asked, DVD-Ranger didn’t want to confirm the blog post is about Elby and Slysoft, likely to avoid being possibly sued for libel and defamation. However they did respond on the similarity on of output. DVD-Ranger states about this, “there are two companies that present a solution, that is the same as SoundTouch. We have added a little software to the post, that re-enable the Cinavia in this solution.So we have now around 100 million different possibilities, and they found exact the same frequency, exact the same smaple amount, exact the same triangle size, also they found exact the same compounder and FIR effect settings? And also the same combination out of this three effects, because none of them alone will work.”

We couldn’t reach Elby or Slysoft for a comment.

Update: DVD-Ranger has posted another blog that according to the developer should bring new proof.